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US envoys to meet Putin and Zelenskyy separately after peace talks see some progress

Nov 12, 2 AM ET to Nov 12, 8 AM ET · 1 outlet not rated for lean

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  1. Nov 12, 2 AM ETfirst on a front page: Bloomberg
  2. Nov 12, 2 AM ETfirst on TV: BBC News
  3. Nov 12, 4 AM ETretold online by 8 people
  4. Nov 12, 5 AM ETfirst on the radio: NPR News Now
  5. Nov 12, 7 AM ETpeak: on 14 front pages

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gaining fast: stories gathering like this went wide 4 times in 10 (136 stories)

714TueWedThupeak: 14 front pages, Thu 7 AMTue Nov 10, 1 PM ET: on 1 front pages (1 center)Tue Nov 10, 2 PM ET: on 1 front pages (1 center)Tue Nov 10, 3 PM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Tue Nov 10, 4 PM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Tue Nov 10, 5 PM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Tue Nov 10, 6 PM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Tue Nov 10, 7 PM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Tue Nov 10, 8 PM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Tue Nov 10, 9 PM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Tue Nov 10, 10 PM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Tue Nov 10, 11 PM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Wed Nov 11, 12 AM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Wed Nov 11, 1 AM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Wed Nov 11, 2 AM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Wed Nov 11, 3 AM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Wed Nov 11, 4 AM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Wed Nov 11, 5 AM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Wed Nov 11, 6 AM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Wed Nov 11, 7 AM ET: on 2 front pages (1 center, 1 right)Wed Nov 11, 8 AM ET: on 4 front pages (1 center, 1 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Wed Nov 11, 9 AM ET: on 4 front pages (1 center, 1 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Wed Nov 11, 10 AM ET: on 5 front pages (1 center, 2 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Wed Nov 11, 11 AM ET: on 5 front pages (1 center, 2 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Wed Nov 11, 12 PM ET: on 5 front pages (1 center, 2 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Wed Nov 11, 1 PM ET: on 5 front pages (1 center, 2 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Wed Nov 11, 2 PM ET: on 5 front pages (1 center, 2 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Wed Nov 11, 3 PM ET: on 5 front pages (1 center, 2 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Wed Nov 11, 4 PM ET: on 5 front pages (1 center, 2 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Wed Nov 11, 5 PM ET: on 5 front pages (1 center, 2 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Wed Nov 11, 6 PM ET: on 5 front pages (1 center, 2 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Wed Nov 11, 7 PM ET: on 6 front pages (1 center, 3 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Wed Nov 11, 8 PM ET: on 6 front pages (1 center, 3 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Wed Nov 11, 9 PM ET: on 6 front pages (1 center, 3 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Wed Nov 11, 10 PM ET: on 6 front pages (1 center, 3 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Wed Nov 11, 11 PM ET: on 6 front pages (1 center, 3 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Thu Nov 12, 12 AM ET: on 6 front pages (1 center, 3 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Thu Nov 12, 1 AM ET: on 6 front pages (1 center, 3 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Thu Nov 12, 2 AM ET: on 7 front pages (2 center, 3 right, 1 left, 1 not rated)Thu Nov 12, 3 AM ET: on 8 front pages (2 center, 3 right, 1 left, 1 leans left, 1 not rated)Thu Nov 12, 4 AM ET: on 11 front pages (3 center, 3 right, 1 left, 3 leans left, 1 not rated)Thu Nov 12, 5 AM ET: on 10 front pages (2 center, 3 right, 1 left, 3 leans left, 1 not rated)Thu Nov 12, 6 AM ET: on 12 front pages (3 center, 3 right, 1 left, 4 leans left, 1 not rated)Thu Nov 12, 7 AM ET: on 14 front pages (4 center, 3 right, 1 leans right, 1 left, 4 leans left, 1 not rated)Thu Nov 12, 8 AM ET: on 14 front pages (4 center, 3 right, 1 leans right, 1 left, 4 leans left, 1 not rated)
Front pages carrying it each hour, by the outlets' lean, the side that had it first at the bottom:leftleans leftcenterleans rightrightnot rated. First: BBC, Tue 1:02 PM ET.
Nov 11, 6 AM12 PM6 PMNov 126 AMBBCBBCBBC, Nov 10, 1:02 PM ET: First day of Ukraine peace talks constructive, Zelensky saysBBC, Nov 12, 6:00 AM ET: US envoys arrive in Moscow for Ukraine talks with Vladimir PutinBBC, Nov 12, 8:00 AM ET: Ukraine says military Starlink disrupted again as US envoys meet Putin in MoscowNew York PostNew York PostNew York Post, Nov 10, 3:02 PM ET: Ukraine-Russia peace talks were ‘constructive and quite substantive,’ Zelensky saysNew York Post, Nov 11, 4:00 PM ET: Kushner and Witkoff to meet Putin after ‘one of the toughest’ rounds of talks with RussiansRFE/RLRadio Free Europe Radio LibertyRadio Free Europe Radio Liberty, Nov 11, 8:00 AM ET: US Envoys To Meet Putin And Zelenskyy Following Abu Dhabi TalksRadio Free Europe Radio Liberty, Nov 12, 3:00 AM ET: US Envoys Arrive In Moscow For Talks With PutinRadio Free Europe Radio Liberty, Nov 12, 8:00 AM ET: Putin Meets US Envoys As Kyiv Reports Starshield DisruptionsThe GuardianThe GuardianThe Guardian, Nov 11, 8:00 AM ET: US envoys to meet Putin and Zelenskyy separately after peace talks see some progressThe Guardian, Nov 12, 4:00 AM ET: Zelenskyy sees ‘window of opportunity’ for peace as US envoys to meet PutinThe Guardian, Nov 12, 5:00 AM ET: Ukraine hit by ‘significant’ Starshield disruptions as US envoys meet Putin, Zelenskyy saysIJRIndependent Journal ReviewIndependent Journal Review, Nov 11, 10:00 AM ET: Envoys Plan Moscow-Dublin Talks With Putin, ZelenskyyNewsmaxNewsmaxNewsmax, Nov 11, 7:00 PM ET: Zelenskyy: US Approach to Russia Key to Progress in TalksNewsmax, Nov 12, 4:00 AM ET: US Envoys in Moscow for Meeting with Putin Following Talks in Abu DhabiNewsmax, Nov 12, 8:00 AM ET: Witkoff, Kushner Meet Putin After Ukraine TalksBloombergBloombergBloomberg, Nov 12, 2:00 AM ET: US Envoys Arrive for Putin Talks as Zelenskyy Sees OpportunityBloomberg, Nov 12, 7:00 AM ET: US Envoys to Meet Putin as Kyiv Says Starshield Limits ResumedABC NewsABC NewsABC News, Nov 12, 3:00 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner arrive in Moscow to meet with Putin, discuss Ukraine peace talksABC News, Nov 12, 6:00 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner arrive in Moscow to meet PutinNBC NewsNBC NewsNBC News, Nov 12, 4:00 AM ET: U.S. envoys in Moscow for meeting with Putin following talks in Abu DhabiNBC News, Nov 12, 5:00 AM ET: U.S. envoys in Moscow for meeting with Putin following peace talks in Abu DhabiReutersReutersReuters, Nov 12, 4:00 AM ET: US envoys arrive in Moscow for latest round of Ukrainian peace talks with PutinReuters, Nov 12, 8:00 AM ET: US envoys go to Kremlin for talks with Putin on UkraineCNNCNNCNN, Nov 12, 4:00 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner arrive in Moscow for Ukraine talks with PutinCNN, Nov 12, 8:00 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner in Moscow for Ukraine talks, as Zelensky says Starshield restricted again Talks are underway in Moscow after negotiations in Abu Dhabi aimed at ending the Ukraine war concluded without a breakthroughCNBCCNBCCNBC, Nov 12, 6:00 AM ET: Ukraine warns of fresh Starshield disruptions as U.S. envoys arrive in Moscow for talks with PutinThe Epoch TimesThe Epoch TimesThe Epoch Times, Nov 12, 7:00 AM ET: Kushner, Witkoff Arrive in Moscow for Talks Over Ukraine WarFinancial TimesFinancial TimesFinancial Times, Nov 12, 7:00 AM ET: Ukraine says Starlink restrictions are back as US envoys land in Moscow📺 TVBBC News, 2:14 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner arrive in Moscow for talksBBC News, 2:15 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner arrive in Moscow for talksBBC News, 2:16 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner arrive in Moscow for talksBBC News, 2:18 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner arrive in Moscow for talksBBC News, 3:01 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner are in Moscow for talksBBC News, 3:02 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner are in Moscow for talksBBC News, 3:02 AM ET: Zelensky: First step must be to end this warBBC News, 3:04 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner are in Moscow for talksBBC News, 5:01 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner are in Moscow for talksBBC News, 5:02 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner meeting President PutinBBC News, 5:02 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner are in Moscow for talksBBC News, 5:04 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner meeting President PutinBBC News, 5:07 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner meeting President PutinBBC News, 6:11 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner meeting President PutinBBC News, 6:12 AM ET: Witkoff and Kushner meeting President PutinBBC News, 7:01 AM ET: Zelensky: First step must be to end this warBBC News, 7:02 AM ET: Zelensky: First step must be to end this war📻 radioNPR News Now, Nov 12, 5:09 AM ET: the lead🧶 online🧶found retold online (the day's report)
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💬 Quoted

  1. “one of the toughest”1
  2. “significant”1
  3. “window of opportunity”1
  4. “constructive and quite substantive,”1

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1 Google News

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✏️ 10 outlets ran more than one headline on it (reworded, or a follow-up)
  • ABC News (2 wordings): “Witkoff and Kushner arrive in Moscow to meet with Putin, discuss Ukraine peace talks” → “Witkoff and Kushner arrive in Moscow to meet Putin”
  • BBC (3 wordings): “First day of Ukraine peace talks constructive, Zelensky says” → “Ukraine says military Starlink disrupted again as US envoys meet Putin in Moscow”
  • Bloomberg (2 wordings): “US Envoys Arrive for Putin Talks as Zelenskyy Sees Opportunity” → “US Envoys to Meet Putin as Kyiv Says Starshield Limits Resumed”
  • CNN (2 wordings): “Witkoff and Kushner arrive in Moscow for Ukraine talks with Putin” → “Witkoff and Kushner in Moscow for Ukraine talks, as Zelensky says Starshield restricted again Talks are underway in Moscow after negotiations in Abu Dhabi aimed at ending the Ukraine war concluded without a breakthrough”
  • NBC News (2 wordings): “U.S. envoys in Moscow for meeting with Putin following talks in Abu Dhabi” → “U.S. envoys in Moscow for meeting with Putin following peace talks in Abu Dhabi”
  • New York Post (2 wordings): “Ukraine-Russia peace talks were ‘constructive and quite substantive,’ Zelensky says” → “Kushner and Witkoff to meet Putin after ‘one of the toughest’ rounds of talks with Russians”
  • Newsmax (3 wordings): “Zelenskyy: US Approach to Russia Key to Progress in Talks” → “Witkoff, Kushner Meet Putin After Ukraine Talks”
  • Radio Free Europe Radio Liberty (3 wordings): “US Envoys To Meet Putin And Zelenskyy Following Abu Dhabi Talks” → “Putin Meets US Envoys As Kyiv Reports Starshield Disruptions”
  • Reuters (2 wordings): “US envoys arrive in Moscow for latest round of Ukrainian peace talks with Putin” → “US envoys go to Kremlin for talks with Putin on Ukraine”
  • The Guardian (3 wordings): “US envoys to meet Putin and Zelenskyy separately after peace talks see some progress” → “Ukraine hit by ‘significant’ Starshield disruptions as US envoys meet Putin, Zelenskyy says”
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📺 On TV

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  1. ⚖️ BBC News 12 min

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  1. 🫏 NPR News Now 1× · 🥇 led 1

🧶 Retelling

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  • 🧩 Nothing about us without us 🧶 online
    “Europe must maintain sanctions and keep Russian assets frozen to prevent Moscow from bypassing European authority through Washington.”

🧶 Retold online

  • Europe must maintain sanctions and keep Russian assets frozen to prevent Moscow from bypassing European authority through Washington. Nov 12: told by 8 people (same issue)
    🧩 Nothing about us without us

On Folklore: the latest in full, with their motifs and who is telling them.

🗣️ Names in it

UkraineRussiaVolodymyr ZelenskyyPutinMoscow

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🧵 Persistence

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🧵 Ukraine-Russia Peace Talks

  1. Zelenskyy warns U.S. backing Russia would be a historic mistake

    Oct 19, 7 AM ET

  2. Russia attacks Ukraine's energy infrastructure again

    Oct 15, 5 AM ET

  3. Trump pauses U.S. sanctions on Russia

    Oct 20, 6 AM ET

  4. Ukraine launches over 1,000 drones at Russian oil facilities

    Oct 18, 9 AM ET

  5. Trump waives Russia sanctions to keep peace talks alive

    Oct 16, 11 PM ET

  6. Trump criticizes Zelenskyy over Ukraine negotiations

    Oct 19, 5 AM ET

  7. Zelenskyy meets U.S. envoy amid Trump tensions

    Oct 20, 5 PM ET

  8. Putin proposes trilateral summit with Trump and Xi on Ukraine war

    Oct 19, 2 AM ET

  9. Ukrainian President open to ceasefire with frozen front lines

    Oct 22, 1 PM ET

  10. US envoy Witkoff meets with Putin in St. Petersburg

    Oct 22, 8 PM ET

  11. Russia agrees to resume trilateral peace talks with Ukraine and the U.S

    Oct 20, 7 PM ET

  12. Russia releases detained American teacher after Trump intervention

    Oct 21, 6 AM ET

  13. Russia releases American Stephen Hubbard after over 4 years in prison

    Oct 23, 11 AM ET

  14. Russia and Ukraine exchange strikes amid renewed peace talks

    Oct 22, 7 AM ET

  15. Ukraine, Russia, and U.S. prepare for November peace talks

    Oct 28, 3 PM ET

  16. U.S. to mediate Ukraine-Russia talks in Abu Dhabi next week

    Nov 3, 1 PM ET

  17. Trump meets with Putin envoy on Ukraine peace deal

    Nov 6, 8 PM ET

  18. Missile attacks wound nine as Ukraine prepares for talks with Russia and the U.S

    Nov 7, 11 AM ET

  19. Russia and Ukraine exchange strikes ahead of peace talks

    Nov 9, 1 PM ET

  20. Russia and Ukraine agree to large prisoner exchange in U.S.-mediated talks

    Nov 9, 6 AM ET

  21. US envoys to meet Putin and Zelenskyy separately after peace talks see some progress (this story)

    Nov 12, 2 AM ET

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