🧩 BND Motif Index · M789
Forever war
A war is said to have no end and no exit, ended by one side and dragged back by the other, a generation's war that never finishes.
- 4claims filed under it
- 3left shows it came up on
- 2center shows it came up on
- 1claim retold online
⚠️ A story people tell, not a claim that it's true.
A motif is the shape of a story as its tellers tell it, named the way a folklorist names a tale type, so the same story told about other people, by the other side or in another year lands in the same place. Some of the claims below are true, many are false. Arguing against a story is often a story of its own, its answer (Voter fraud is answered by Voter suppression, Lawfare by No one is above the law), and we file it there; where no answer has a motif yet, the arguments against a story sit with its tellings.
🎙️ Who it came up with
the shows we follow where its claims came up, by the show's lean
⚖️ center 2
🐘 right 0
🦗 none of our right shows, so far
"Came up on" means one of its claims was heard on the show: told, reported or argued against. We don't yet mark which. Show leans are our own grouping of the shows we transcribe.
📰 In the news
the stories its claims were told about, the most told first (matched by our tools, so a link can be wrong)
- 📰 U.S. military reports 81 aircraft lost or damaged in Iran war 2026-10-08 to 2026-10-09
🧶 Its claims
what's been told in this shape, newest first, in our words, with where each was heard
- 2026-10-21 “Israel is adopting a doctrine that treats war as a desirable, permanent state of being.”
🎙️ Breaking Points 🎙️ The Young Turks (podcast) - 2026-10-12 “The war in Yemen has been devastating for the population.”
🎙️ The Kyle Kulinski Show 🎙️ The Intelligence (Economist) - 2026-10-09 “The U.S. military has lost or sustained damage to 81 aircraft in the Iran war, with replacement costs reaching up to $3.3 billion.” 🧶 people online
- 2026-10-08 “Donald Trump has led the country into a disastrous war in the Middle East.”
🎙️ The Bulwark Podcast
M789 · first seen 2026-10-10 · last 2026-10-21 · what this is · how the index works